Q: How do you begin to practice psychospiritually?

A: In the same way that one begins on any spiritual path, in the dual states of doubt and faith from which you question all, and take the assumption that the world you see is not the world as it is, but simply the objective world of one’s inner life projected outward as one’s interpretation of the world. When you give up description, opinion, and understanding, and realize that you don’t have to take a position relative to other the perception arises within you that you are not separate from anything else.

Q: But if you are not separate from anything else, how would you live?

A: In congruence and truth, from the central heart of compassion for all living forms that arise in consciousness. You see that the world is not as we see it; it really is quite different from our relative, materialistic, and phenomenal way of looking at it.

Q: So when we see it like this, are we happy?

A: Yes, but not in the way that you think of happiness from a relative point of view, which is happiness balanced or contrasted with unhappiness, misery, depression, etc. This is a happiness that does not depend on external circumstances.

Q: So it is not associated with the satisfaction or fulfillment of wishes?

A: Happiness is an attitude, a way of approaching the world and facing events knowing that everything is fundamentally as it should be. Suffering is essentially of two varieties: conscious and unconscious. In unconscious suffering we do not realize that our attachment to circumstances, positive or negative, is the fundamental cause of suffering. We perpetuate suffering by remaining attached to conditions, and these conditions will change. has to it inevitably changes, because that is the nature of life; change is intrinsic to life and we are powerless to change that. But if we can embrace suffering and see that it is the means to our personal liberation, we take the ‘sting’ out of it and happily face it. No matter what, we are fundamentally in touch with our true self, and that true self exists within a fundamentally happy condition.

Q: Could this happiness be thought of as the goal of psychospiritual psychotherapy?

A: Maybe, but in the end there should be no goal other than to be who you are…

P: …and then you will see the world as it is.

A: Yes, exactly! You will see the world as it is.

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